Freshmen: Today we continued our emphasis on the rhetorical device of argument. Continue gathering research and sources for your Capstone project. You need a minimum of five sources and a dozen blank index cards for Monday. Read for 20 minutes tonight.
Honors students: Respond to the prompt on the blog. Your responses should be thoughtful, and consist of a couple of paragraphs. Please respond to what others have said in your post. Prompt: Is revenge ever morally acceptable, or are we always obligated to forgive others, regardless of what they have done to us?
Sophomores: Today or focus was on the information you collected about your particular archetype. Your task is to write a research essay that describes your archetype's attributes and characteristics. At least twice in your essay, cite from one of your sources, word for word. Tell stories about characters or people from history that are exemplars of this archetype as a way to support your research. Choose characters from stories outside the pantheon we have studied in class. Be sure to indicate the lead and conclusion technique you are using, have an interesting title, and make sure your essay is free of conventions errors. Submit it to turnitin.com by 8 AM on Monday morning for full credit. Essays not submitted to turnitin will not be eligible for full credit. Also due Monday is Book IV of The Poisonwood Bible.
CNF: We continued with Part III today.
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Alright, this better be the place where we post our responses!! But, here's what I have to say:
Revenge is awesome! Sometimes, when you are extremely furious, it is nice to get back at someone for what they have done. I do this ALL the time, and most of you have experienced firsthand me doing this. However, the bible teaches us to always forgive others, no matter what they have done. I agree that forgiveness is important, but I don't think revenge is morally unacceptable.
I have found that it is possible to forgive someone while still getting revenge. It is fun to play pranks on people (revenge) if they have done something you don't like or embarrassed you in front of the class (which does happen all the time!) I believe that petty revenge is totally fine as long as both people just laugh about it in the end, and therefore forgive each other.
However, in the case of The Count of Monte Cristo, I predict that the revenge happening there will be wrong. I'm pretty sure that what Mondego and Danglars do to Dantes isn't going to be cool, and definitely not be a morally acceptable act. In the end, I believe that revenge is morally acceptable in some cases, but not in all. (However in my case revenge is always acceptable!!)
Revenge is a really tricky thing to deal with. Usually, when you want revenge it is because you're furious, and someone did something to really piss you off. Is it morally acceptable?
I believe it depends on the severity of the deed that the person committed against you. Usually, you should just laugh it off. Ha. Ha. However, I think we have all experienced just total and complete animosity. If you have, you should all know that you aren't thinking clearly. So, if you take time to cool off, then you'll see what they did probably wasn't that important. Therefore, you can let it go. So, in my opinion, is revenge morally correct? No, and I know this will sound cliche, but it would make you no better than them.
Revenge is a difficult subject to take sides on. I personally believe that revenge is immoral and that everybody can be forgiven. This is because being forgiving doesn't men you are necessarily 'friends' or just plain 'close' with the person anymore. Forgiveness is the act of getting over what someone has done to you, and understanding that what they did is wrong and it wil eventually come back to haunt them. Taking revenge against someone will just put that same amount of immorality on you. Sometimes people think that it is funny to et revenge, or that they will just get a good laugh out of it. and they might. But then that other person, that person that they have now hurt, has to feel the same pain they did. Which nobody should have to go through that. It is easier to just leave things alone and either watch things turn on them, or watch them get upset that your not even reacting. In The Count Of Monte Cristo i think that the planing of revenge and the action of it is immoral and is just going to make Dantes feel forse.
Revenge is morally unacceptable and makes the world a worse place. It is a fast hotheaded solution, often short sighted, causing more problems farther down the line. Take gang violence in America as a prime example. Most gang-related homicides are a retaliation to previous violence, causing a never ending cycle of mindless killing.
In the words of Mahatma Gandhi, "An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind." Retaliation may bring temporary satisfaction to the revenger, but it will be short lived and ultimately not worth the consequences, whether they be straight forward or mysterious: karma works in strange ways.
If you have the mindfulness and patience to forgive someone for whatever they may have done to you, however severe it may have been, you will come out a stronger person and will definitely result better for you in the long run.
When it comes to revenge and forgiveness, I think most would say forgiveness is the more proper solution to any problem (Unless you are Shubella)I do agree with Rachel that revenge is okay if its harmless pranks where nobody is being physically or emotionally hurt. By this I mean that revenge is used more for fun. If you intentionally hurt someone to get revenge, then like Kelsin said, you're no better than they are. Also revenge will not solve any issues, not to mention the other person may even try to get revenge on you.
I believe that over all forgiveness is the better solution. This brings your issue with that person to an end and you no longer have that burden hanging on you. In most cases you'll find that you won't regret forgiving somebody. Though you could end up regretting getting revenge on someone. I think it would be easier for everyone in that situation if you forgave them and moved on with your life. Holding a grudge against someone is pointless and will just waste your time.
I am interested to see what will happen in the Count of Monte Cristo on this subject. I am afraid that revenge may not turn out so well in this story.
Just like Rachel, I think it is fine to seek revenge for a prank or something done out of fun. It was done in fun in games rather than being malicious. I also think it is okay to seek revenge against someone who has done a serious crime. When America sought out Osama bin Laden, it was done out of revenge. A lot of countries wanted him dead, but we wanted to be the ones that captured him, making it more revenge than justice. I think revenge in cases like these is morally acceptable because the person had done huge damage and in a way they deserve it.
However, I believe seeking revenge for people who did you wrong is morally unacceptable. Making someone suffer the same way you did does not make you feel any better. You become worse than them by stooping down to their level. And in my opinion, there really is no satisfactory in getting even with someone. It’s just a waste of time and energy. It is also a distraction from other issues in your life that are more important.
Overall, I think forgiveness is better. It makes you happier and lets you move on in life. And if you forgive the person who wronged you, it just makes that person feel worse for being cruel. As Isaac Friedmann said, "Forgiveness is the sweetest revenge."
Just like Kelsin said, I find revenge to be a tricky subject. Revenge is sweet. Its justice being served. In our eyes. And everybody loves the thought of justice. It’s in our legal system, religion, personal values, etc. I think that’s why revenge is used in the first place. But is it immoral? Personally I think vengeance is necessary in times. Sometimes people need to get what they deserve and to be put in their place. It shows them what lines the cant cross, thus they will learn to respect that person. On the other hand, revenge can be purely out of spite. In this case it’s not a matter of amending things, it’s a matter of hurting them. That’s when revenge becomes immoral.
When it comes to revenge, I believe that even though it may be badly wanted by many, it should not be allowed. Rather than taking revenge on someone, I agree with Maclaine - people should forgive each other. Forgiving each other will end the conflict, and will cause less people to be hurt while trying to get revenge.
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